daveyg 12:14 Sun Mar 29
Rob Shepherd has it right...
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On the subject of giving home grown talent a chance.
Take West Ham - they have taken 33-year-old Brazilian Nene, who is effectively past it, for the rest of the season on a free transfer, to plug a gap rather than recall promising 20-year-old forward Elliot Lee from his spell at Luton.
Given the Hammers are safe from relegation surely there could be no better time to really find out about the striker - son of Newcastle legend Rob Lee - who made one first team appearance THREE years ago.
But Sam Allardyce does not have a good track record for bringing young players through.
Exactly what many of us have been saying for ages.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3016173/Harry-Kane-set-new-Tottenham-contract-worth-near-six-figures-Chelsea-Manchester-City-battle-Gareth-Bale-Arsenal-want-Marco-Reus.html#ixzz3VlaJYI3N
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WHOicidal Maniac
12:19 Sun Mar 29
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I certainly agree with the sentiment but Im not sure Mr Lee has the chops...but he should at least have the chance to prove himself..
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Private Dancer
12:22 Sun Mar 29
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I really had hoped the Nene type signings were behind us now. It is truly tragic. Joke club.
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mallard
12:23 Sun Mar 29
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Would most on here suffer league placing in order to play more youth players?
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Takashi Miike
12:23 Sun Mar 29
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I don't agree with much of what shepherd says but on this topic I think he's correct. It's not even the overlooking of home grown players, it's not giving game time to poyet and blooding someone like the young centre back oxford
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El Scorchio
12:24 Sun Mar 29
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Got to agree with that.
I wonder how much playing time he'd actually get, with Sakho, Valencia and Cole in the squad too, though.
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Eddie B
12:26 Sun Mar 29
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How are we ever going to know unless he gets a chance in a few dead rubbers at the end of the season. What's the point of playing an over the hill player who won't be with us next season.
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Texas Iron
12:28 Sun Mar 29
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And even then...he doesn't play Nene...who looks better and fitter than Zarate...and without the bad attitude...
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Darby_
12:32 Sun Mar 29
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If Elliot is good enough for the Premier League why wasn't a Championship or League One team interested in taking him on loan?
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Monk~koknee
12:36 Sun Mar 29
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Nene was an emergency signing and was never going to be used much. Lee is probably better off somewhere he is getting match time. Not that I think he will make it but that is only based on a few glimpses and gut reaction.
The Academy has produced no-one worth playing for a long time. Hopefully there are a few younger ones coming through but a little early for them. The decision not to play Poyet is a baffling one though.
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i-Ron
12:48 Sun Mar 29
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Nene isn't a striker.
Lee is a striker.
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Cliff Richard
12:48 Sun Mar 29
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What Shepard failed to say is that Allardyce is a no pride, bottle job cunt. Hank is outraged at this.
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El Scorchio
12:54 Sun Mar 29
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Good point as well Mallard.
Given so many seem very dissatisfied with the position we're in at the moment, would they tolerate playing young players and maybe losing another position or two before the end of the season?
Catch 22.
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Cliff Richard
12:55 Sun Mar 29
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mallard 12:23 Sun Mar 29
Absolutely. I don't think anybody believes we're chasing a Champion's League place anymore.
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1:00 Sun Mar 29
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There is something written today which shows that the current twenty Premiership clubs have between them fostered a grand total of fifty seven Premiership regulars over the last ten years.
So twenty Premiership clubs are between them producing just six first teamers each year. This is clearly not a problem confined to WHU.
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cholo
1:07 Sun Mar 29
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Lee isn't in the squad because he's not deemed good enough, yet at least. simple as that.
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Private Dancer
1:10 Sun Mar 29
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Not deemed good enough by a manager who plays Nolan every week. You can fuck off with your cliched bollocks. Give the lad a go. Is Nene good enough?
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,
1:12 Sun Mar 29
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Also not deemed good enough by managers throughout at least three divisions too.
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whufcroe
1:14 Sun Mar 29
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Another situation where the club can't win with the fans. Had they not brought in cover and we only had Lee fit they would be scream blue murder and old bite your ear off would be saying so in the paper.
Lee needs experience, he's getting that and at this moment in time it's highly unlikely he would cut it in the PL but you never know.
Whilst I'm sure some fans would gladly give up a few league places to play some youth players, a manager who's job depends on a good finish and a board that need every penny they can get with millions at stake for those few places I guess will have a different view.
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,
1:16 Sun Mar 29
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Mr Roe 1.14, it's no good talking sense on here.
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Side of Ham
1:19 Sun Mar 29
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What always makes me piss is the fact that all these opinions about the manager and youth talent miss the other fact he and the board have restricted funds to spend on squad building compared to those clubs that achieve things. This means if there were any academy product ready to step upto the Premier League stage they would welcome it as it would save them a fortune AND give them money to spend elsewhere in the squad.
Economics is what fucks all these opinions up, he plain and simply isn't ready yet.
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